Diana: Okay in the original series it always really bothered me that there was no starting point that explained how the apes got smart. Charlton Heston takes a rocket into the future and discovers a world of smart apes and dumb humans and then in a later movie two of the smart apes take Charlton Heston’s rocket back to the 70’s and have kids and we’re told that’s where smart apes come from. So in that franchise the apes don’t have a starting point of how they got smart, it’s a time loop with no beginning. They were smart in the future because they were already smart when they went to the past.

Andrew: I’m surprised you like that.

Diana: I hate it. I can’t stand time loops with no beginning. So in the original trilogy that’s how you see the apes get smart BUT if you consider that these new movies are the original timeline of the planet, it suddenly all makes sense.

Andrew: The old movies are an altered timeline created by the ancestors of these apes going to the past!

Diana: Yes! So the new movies are the original timeline of how apes got smart and humans got dumb, then Charlton Heston gets to the future, the two apes take his rocket to the past and create an altered timeline where smart apes are created in a different way and that’s what the 70’s movies are.

Andrew: What about the Mark Wahlburg movie?

Diana: That’s a movie within the universe that the apes made as like a docu-drama about their history.